Does Hebrews 1:1-2; Colossians 1:16-17 & John 1:10 Say That Yahshua Was Involved in the Creation of the World?

Please note how these passages are translated in the Emphatic Diaglott Greek Interlinear.

Diaglott, Hebrews 1:1-2

The Greek word di' or dia which is translated 'by' in the A.K.J.V. and 'through' in the R.S.V. in Hebrews 1:2 is translated 'on account of' in the Emphatic Diaglott.

 This changes the meaning of this passage of Hebrews 1:1-2 considerably from how the K.J.V. and the A.S.V. translates. It does not say that Yahshua was involved in the creation of the world, but that the world was created "on account of" him. This translation brings Hebrews 1:2 in harmony with the entire context of Scripture, in that it was Father Yahweh Who created the heavens and the earth ALONE (cf. Psalm 121:1, 33:6-9; Isaiah 44:24) . Following is how the K.J.V. and the R.S.V. translates Hebrews 1:2.

K.J.V., Hebrews 1:2

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

R.S.V., Hebrews 1:2

but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Now, I ask you, are you going to ignore the entire context of Scripture where it is said that Father Yahweh ALONE created the heavens and the earth for how a translator may have translated a word in a few passages?

Even Yahshua himself credited Father Yahweh for the creation of Adam and Eve, not even so much as mentioning that he had any hand in creating them.

Have you not read, that He Who made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,  (Matthew 19:4; Genesis 1:27)

Yahshua surely had an involment in the creation of the heavens and the earth in that Father Yahweh had him in mind, but he had no hand in the actual creation in the beginning. He was not a "co-creator" with Father Yahweh in the beginning as many deceptively teach. He did not even "pre-exist" with Father Yahweh, nor was he Father Yahweh. Yahshua was Father Yahweh's son as Scripture teaches.

"The Glory I Had with You Before The World was" -- Yahchanan [John] 17:5

Do these words mean that Yahshua was personally with the Father from the very beginning? or are they expressive of the fact that Yahweh, as a wise Architect (Hebrews 11:10), foresaw the glory of His completed plan?

The latter without doubt! This is shown beyond question because of the use of similar language in the same manner.

Thus Kepha taught that Yahshua was "foreordained before the foundation of the world but was manifested (made known) in these last times for you" (1 Kepha [Peter] 1:20). Yahchanan [John] describes him as "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Revelation 13:8).

Was Yahshua "slain from the foundation of the world"? Typically, yes, in the sacrifices provided; but literally, no.

In like manner, Yahweh, who knows the end from the beginning, foresaw the glory of His son Yahshua and proclaimed it through the prophets. The ultimate glory of Yahshua was in the mind and purpose of the Father from the very beginning.

He also provided for the ultimate glory of Messiah's followers, so that Yahshua prayed:

"The glory which You gave me, I have given them" (Yahchanan [John] 17:22).

Do Messiah's followers possess his glory now? They do not, they are merely "in hope" of it (cf. Romans 5:2).

How can Yahshua then claim to have given it to them? Only in the sense that he has provisionally bestowed it, foreknowing that they to whom it is given in promise will fulfil the conditions to ultimately receive it in reality.

Thus, an accepted follower at Yahshua's coming could well speak to Yahweh as Yahshua prayed to the Father:

"Glorify You me with the glory that I had (in promise) with You before world began!"

Yahweh foreknows the completed purpose, and knowing that He will bring it to consummation, is able to "call those things which be not as though they are" (Romans 4:17). Shaul taught:

"Yahweh chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy, without blame before Him" (Eph. 1:4).

If John 17:5 proves the pre-existence of Yahshua, Ephesians 1:4 must prove the pre-existence of all who are followers of him!

The same language is used of other men whom Yahweh has used in a special way. Of Yeremiah it is written:

"Before I formed you in the belly I knew you; and before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations" (Yeremiah 1:5).

Does that prove the pre-existence of Yeremiah? If not, why should Yahchanan [John] 17:5 be used to teach the pre-existence of Yahshua, and so be made to conflict with many other references which speak of him as the son of David born 1900 years ago? Similar language is used of Shaul (Galatians 1:15) and others. When Yahshua returns, his accepted followers will be granted a glory similar to that bestowed upon him. They will be "conformed to the image of Father Yahweh's son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Romans 8:29).

THE MODEL PRAYER

Luke 11:1-4

And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his students said unto him, master, teach us to pray, as Yahchanan also taught his students. And he said unto them, When you pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, ...


Yahshua was communicating (praying) to Father Yahweh Who is in heaven when he was here on earth. One of his students came to him and asked him to teach them to communicate to Father Yahweh in heaven as Yahchanan also taught his students.

Note that Yahshua included himself in saying "our Father" and he made it known that Father Yahweh was in heaven. He was not instructing them to pray to him, but to pray to Yahweh our Heavenly Father and Creator.


Hallowed be Your Name.

The word 'hallowed' means 'to be set apart' or 'seperate'. Compare this to the instruction to be a seperate or holy people (Leviticus 20:7; 1 Kepha 1:15-16; also cf. Mattithyah 5:48; Romans 12:2; Philippians 3:15; Yaaqob 1:4). Other words that are used in place of hallowed or hallow are sanctified, sacred and holy. Here Yahshua is asking them to pray that the Name Yahweh be set apart from all other names such as the names of pagan deities.

Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Here Yahshua is telling them to communicate their disire that Father Yahweh's will be done on earth as it is in heaven and His Kingdom that is to come.


Give us day by day our daily bread.


Here Yahshua is asking them to pray that they be fed daily. But remember, Yahshua also instructed that "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh." Mattithyah 4:4 & Deuteronomy 8:3


And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.


Here Yahshua is asking them to communicate their disire that their disobedience to Father Yahweh's Teaching be forgiven and to state how they also forgive others their sins and that they not be lead into temptation, but that Father Yahweh deliver them from the evil one.


This model prayer alone proves that Yahweh our Heavenly Father and Creator "WHO IS IN HEAVEN" is not His son Yahshua whom Father Yahweh did send into the earth.

"Nowhere in the New Testament is a fully formulated doctrine of the Trinity stated."

Baptist Quarterly
Adult Sunday School Edition
January, Febuary, March
1974, Page 26.

"Is there one who fears God, ... who would not admit that Paganism alone could ever have inspired such a doctrine as that avowed by the Melchites at the Nicene Council, That the Holy Trinity consists of 'the Father, the Virgin Mary, and the Messiah their Son'?"

The Two Babylons,
by Alexander Hislop
Loizeaux Brothers
Neptune, N.J.
Page 89.

"Will anyone after this say that the Roman Catholic Church must still be called Christian, because it holds the doctrine of the Trinity? So did the Pagan Babylonians, so did the Egyptians, so do the Hindoos at this hour, in the very sense that Rome does. They all admit a Trinity, but did they worship the Triune Jehovah, the King Eternal, Immortal, and Invisible?"

Ibid, Page 90.

Igdrasil, or Ygdrasil - "Norse myth. The great tree of the universe, having three roots which embrace and support heaven, hell and earth, destined to live until the world comes to an end."

Winston Dictionary, 1943 Edition

"If a crooked stick is before you, you need not explain how crooked it is. Lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done. Preach the truth, and error will stand abashed in its presence." - Charles H. Spurgeon